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Sunday, December 23, 2007

Pretentious Expatriates

While looking through my blog's tracking records, I came upon a expatriate forum for foreigners living in Japan. One of the members posted a link to my blog and he and several others posted a series of comments ridiculing me and my impressions of Japan. According to them I am ignorant, lazy, stupid, classless and mundane. The posters made these judgments by ridiculing posts I'd written before I was in Japan, by taking text out of context and by completely twisting the meanings of my words.

One poster claimed I was proud that my brother had a confirmed kill in Iraq, even though I say in the entry that I am sickened by the death tolls there and sympathetic to the grief of the man's family. The majority of the attacks, however, were based on the following quote, a sentence I wrote before I left the United States: "Apparently, the Japanese use three different syllabaries or system of characters: Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji. Kanji is the one with thousands of characters that foreigners like me have virtually no hope of learning, so naturally it is the one used most often." Various posters use it as evidence of my ignorance of the Japanese language, an apparently pathetic and unforgivable sin, but don't seem to realize (or care) that I hadn't even been to Japan yet! Various other pretentious posters claim the comment proves I am too lazy and stupid to learn the language, but just prior to that sentence I had mentioned that I was trying to learn Hiragana. That information, of course, was conveniently not included on the forum. The members did nothing more than selectively quote bits and pieces of my newbie blog to ridicule, all the while congratulating themselves on their superior knowledge of Japan and the Japanese language. Why such intelligent and enlightened individuals spent so much time reading and discussing "the most pedestrian gaijin in Japan story EVER" is beyond me.

Or not. I'm sure there are expatriates like this in every country, but when I was in Japan I occasionally came across foreigners who had to obnoxiously prove their superior knowledge of the language and culture. One co-worker memorized Japanese songs and sang them at karaoke sessions primarily attended by foreigners so he could show off his Japanese language skills. One other occasion, my husband and I sat next to a guy at the bar who would only speak Japanese to the bartender even though they were both foreign, native English speakers. While I don't know the posters in the forum, I got the impression that they too have the need to feel superior and if there's one thing I can't stand it's pretentiousness. The posters presumably have been in Japan for several years (or at least longer than me) and have studied the language for at least that long, yet took great delight in ridiculing my newbie comments. They seem to forget that they too were once new to Japan and the language and undoubtedly had similar feelings and impressions. Plus, if you're going to mock some one's posts at least take the time to read the entire entry instead of taking sentences out of context or misreading the meaning altogether. Get over yourselves.

Rant over.

15 comments:

absent.canadian said...

Experience has taught me that most people who pick fights like this are angry with themselves more than with the person they are attacking.

I have been following your blog for over a year now ... and as a world traveler and blogger, I never found your blog haughty, ignorant or mundane. To the contrary - I thought it was a candid reflection of one person's adventure in another country. To that end - it's even OK to poke some fun at your host country; half of my blog posts wouldn't exist if I couldn't enjoy some gentle elbow-ribbing with my American neighbours. We all know well enough to not take it seriously.

It's a shame that some people attack when well-intentioned people have the bravery and willingness to open themselves up in a forum such as this. I'd ignore them; your supporters may not be as vocal and articulate (?) as these few, but I think most people would agree that this is just mean-spiritedness on their part.

Or - send 'em over to my blog if they don't like it. I'll happily give them a Canadian ass-whoopin' they won't soon forget.

Lady Wanderlust said...

Thanks for that. I have a feeling these guys would have ridiculed anything I said because they knew I worked for Nova. According to them, everyone who worked there was a mindless drone. They of course are enlightened and intelligent.

Librarian Girl said...

That is really gross that they did that.

I'm sorry that happened to you!

Melanie Gray Augustin said...

Yeh, honestly there are some idiots out there that need to feel superior just because they feel inferior in other ways. It sucks that they attacked you like that, but really part of me feels sorry for those guys, as they must lead sad little lives to feel the need to attack like that.

I have really enjoyed reading your blog as it really reminded me of my own journey of discovery when I first arrived and I could see Japan through fresh eyes again.

Cilicious said...

Hi, I found your blog while researching travel info. Good stuff!

Of all the types of pretentiousness, expatriates might be the most pathetic.

Not sure why, maybe it's because it has something to do with being a passive-aggressive stranger in a strange land, who picks and chooses which social norms to obey under the cover of anonymity.
As others said here, those guys are mean-spirited and are merely poking at you to assuage their own insecurities.

Laura Lohr : My Beautiful Life said...

(delurking) I have enjoyed your blog for several months now.

I think you rock girl!

The group think of the message board has less to do with you and more to do with a crappy company that did a shit job at PR. Not your fault.

Let it roll. You are awesome!

SKlepJr said...

I'm a little slow on the uptake lately, but yea, good post Christy. I know it's easy to let internet forums and the such get to you, but as you no doubt realize, anyone can be an expert if they have a keyboard and an IP address. At any rate, I know it's entirely too late, but I uploaded pics from Kawagoe and a few from your going away night, links below. I hope all is well with you and Andrew.

Kawagoe
Karaoke Crotches

Emsk said...

Hi girl!

I've just found your blog and will enjoy reading more. I'm sorry that you've had flack for stating, quite reasonably, that the Japanese language can be difficult. As you said these people were new themselves once.

I work for an eikawa and there's precious little time to learn much Japanese. I'm proud of what I can do, but we don't have the luxury of free language lessons as some peoplle I met have.

Unfortunately you meet these types everywhere, i.e., folk who are sooo much further on that you are and feel the need to brag. It could be they've got nothing else worth braggin about in their little lives.

Shari said...

One thing I've noticed about the people who do this sort of thing is that they are almost always male. I see it as both a competitive thing and an absurd territorial reaction.

Personally, even if I run across something I disagree with on someone else's blog or site, I don't name them or link to them, and I certainly don't disparage them by applying subjective, pejorative words like "stupid" or "ignorant". I outline the idea that I disagree with and talk about why. The fact that people felt it necessary to do what they did to you reflects on their need to feel superior (which indicates they likely feel inferior deep down).

I have never in my history in Japan or as a blogger been exposed to this sort of attitude from a woman (though I have been subjected to it by men) and I think it may reflect on the characters of some of the types of men who are attracted to life in Japan.

Deas said...

Hey there -
I'm really sorry that you've had a lousy experience, but as you can see - you're not alone. So cheer up! I don't know why people feel the need to lord their ex-pat knowledge over others like they do, but I sure hope you don't let it get to you. I personally see a few of the anecdotes from a different point of view (karaoke in Japanese, talking to foreign people in Japanese), because I was that guy. But my purpose in doing so was not to alienate other learners! I was trying to be studious, but fun. And if I had even one Japanese person in the room whose English was worse than my Japanese (a pretentious thought, no doubt about it - apologies), I felt that conducting things in Japanese was more appropriate. Anyway, I'm sure I rubbed people wrongly the same way as the jerks who've put you off. Sorry! The trick is to find the cool people who are out there. They do exist. :-)

Deas said...

Oh yeah - and I disagree with Shari. Ignorance and asininity do not concern themselves with gender. They exist in people all across the diverse demographic wonderland. ;-)

Claytonian said...

My early Japan entries are pretty silly looking to me now.

I noticed someone took an image of me in a kimono from my blog and posted it to a forum. The idea being that I, as a tall blond foreigner, could only look funny in a kimono. Basically, most expatriate forums are full of sad, sad people, so I ignore them.

Chris said...

What a twisted world we live in. A buncha losers from abroad have found a sanctuary in this little country.
The fact that they study Japanese during times and places when they should be preparing proper lessons never seems to dawn on them?

They are hacks that came here for themselves and used teaching English to meet their ends (a lot of them anyway)

The fact that they bother you is troubling. They are self-absorbed, socially ill equipped peeons trying to hide their massive flaws in a foreign country in the hopes that their massive shortcomings ass a human being will go unnoticed.

You really give a f__k what these flunkies think?

Garrett said...

Just came across your blog through a link to this post.

Clearly you're not alone.

The Anglophone Japan blogosphere can be a nasty place - many of the people who comment most often and most widely are out to play "gotcha" or to find a chance to jump all over someone. Don't let it get under your skin.

Let it go. It'll never end and you'll never win. When confronted with hostile, insecure behavior, the only rational course to pursue is to ignore it; don't even acknowledge it. Keep doing what you're doing and rest assured that even most Western expats in Japan are decent folks willing to give people the benefit of the doubt; unfortunately, they're just not as vocal as the jerks.

Anonymous said...

Hi. I just stumbled across this post, and I can assure you that you have nothing to feel bad about in the slightest.

In my experience, many ex-pats who frequent those kinds of forums are condescending and rude, and enjoy making fun of the honest questions and comments of the less experienced. I think that the people who feel the need to put down others are those that have low self-confidence. At least you have the self-confidence to put your honest feelings and observations out there.

I have found that the best strategy is to ignore these people - they don't deserve your attention.

Just keep doing what you're doing!